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Read the following articles for the New York Times –



At 7/23/07, 11:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

links are not working for me.

At 7/23/07, 12:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, Train like the pros at 12 years of age, and you too can be like Terrell Owens, Venus Williams, Simeon Rice, etc etc.

Love those tag lines. Parents get caught up in it and send their kids to places like the one in the article. Why? Because they want their kids to have an edge.

Snake Oil

At 7/23/07, 12:31 PM, Anonymous pmchugh said...

I think the two articles Vern's referring to are:
1) Train Like a Pro, Even if You're 12 by Catherine Saint Louis

2) Fit Young Pitchers See Elbow Repair as Cure-All by Jeff Longman

I just went to NYT website and found them since the links seem to have a problem.

At 7/23/07, 1:01 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The title is found in the style and fashion section? very entertaining and pretty ; )

Ok train like, with the pro's great!

The kid's won't get the edge, they will get hurried like sheep.

How do you tell a 16 year old "you'll never make it to the pro's? You don't, you have someone else do it.

At 7/23/07, 1:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Programs like CATZ and Velocity, etc. are thriving in a market of insane parents AND at a time when our physical education programs are near extinction. Could there be another side to this phenomenon? It could be a productive discussion to look at how as a nation we are failing our children - poor to no PE programs in schools and no time to play unstructured and outside. Ultimately, we can't do much about parents. Where we can make a difference is in getting involved in local schools and offering expertise to help schools who don't have funding, the staff, or a clue. After school programs could be a place to start.
Not to sound completely ignorant, but what are the professional organizations, NSCA included, doing to improve the physical health of our children through the education system. Do they have outreach programs in place to help schools develop and implement athletic development programs in the schools?

- Jill Gerber

At 7/23/07, 5:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think we have diverged from the real point here. Their is a big difference between keeping our youth physically active and trying to make them all machael jordans and mia hams. Just playing a little devils advocate here but how about giving cudos to those parents who are making the genuine effort to keep their children physically active as a reult of the educational/government system removing or down sizing physical education from schools. Personally I don't think our social structure as a whole lends itself to the activity levels we grew up with. It alsmost seems as if kids want to play with other kids they have to join some sort of organization. Whereas when I grew up (and I ain't that old) we organized and played sports/games by ourselves. We even invented games when we were bored with the other ones. We loved a good ol' game a freeze tag. Talk about agility training and work capacity development...

That's my 2 cents...

Jonathan Hewitt

At 7/23/07, 5:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


I agree that we as citizens have failed the students by not protesting the removal of phys ed classes.

However, I don't think for a minute that the parents are sending their kids to these places because they want them to have general fitness.

It's about the $, the scholarships, the payoff.


At 7/24/07, 5:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that the only two degrees in which we find kids performing activity? I don't think it is. What we have idenbtified are two extremes. There are still more degrees between the two extremes that may in fact be safe programs. I don't here anyone complaining about week long basketball/soccer/hockey etc camps where the kids play/train for 6 hours a day. These kids come in deconditioned as we already know and then put through these intense camps. Where's the sense in that? I bring that up because that too is an extreme but I would dare say has been going on longer than some of these other issues.

Just remember there is always a middle ground that gets overlooked due to extremes. Do kids need to be active? Yes everyone does. Do we need to rely on the government to do it? Absolutely not!!

Jonathan Hewitt

At 7/25/07, 2:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jonathon Hewitt,

We weren't talking about the middle ground - we had a system that was working - PE classes. Whether you depend on the Gov't or not for your exercise program - does not matter to me - but there was a system that was working - not great, but in place and working.

You didn't mention the camps in the earlier post or I would have talked about my thoughts on those.

All I said was, the majority of those kids, at the those programs in the Time's link, are not looking for a PE class.


At 7/26/07, 12:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the 70's, we have Baby Boomers.
In the 80's, we have Generation X.
In the 90's, we have MTV Generation.
In the 2000, we have Playstation, XBox360 Generation.


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