Where does the knee go?

I am still amazed at the number of people that coach and teach not allowing the knee go beyond the toes. Look at movement, watch games, if you do not progressively prepare the knee to go beyond the toes with CONTROL you are actually setting the athlete up to be hurt! Where does the knee go? It goes where it has to go – as long as it goes there with CONTROL!


At 8/22/06, 10:32 AM, Anonymous Will Kirousis said...

Logic = GOOD!

At 8/22/06, 11:20 AM, Blogger The Iron Maven said...

Amen, Brother Vern! The history and magnitude of this myth is absolutely fascinating. All hail soleus flexibility--ankle dorsiflexion with the foot on the ground and the knee flexed. We are now in the midst of a whole generation of Americans (athletes and general public) who are terrified of "letting the knee go past the toe."


Tracy Fober
Charter Member, The Knee Can Go Over the Toe Society

At 8/22/06, 11:24 AM, Blogger ChaneyWeiner said...

I was at the NSCA conference last month and I had this discussion with 2 people, one of them was presenting and the other is a well known strength coach and both of them said that the knee should NEVER go past the toe. Then I proceeeded to tell them that it has to, to some degree, and that it is a natural occurance during walking and running. Then I proceeded to do a single leg squat, as my knee went slightly past my toe, and the first words out of one of their mouths was, "have you ever had a knee injury". I do not think they understand that even though my knee did go ast my toe that other areas, such as my gastroc/soleus area were picking up the slack and thus took what appeared to be stress off my knee.

At 8/22/06, 4:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had the same conversation w/ a fellow trainer, she just did'nt want to see what I was trying to say. I spent 28yrs playing a sport with my knee over my toe! No knee problems, great case study.

At 8/22/06, 10:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice post Vern, I agree...but I think most of the instruction comes from trying to remove poor back posture in the squat. Instead of using the glutes and quads, most first timers want to use the low back and move straight down instead of down and back. Thoughts?


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